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<p class=MsoPlainText>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText>We&#8217;ll hopefully get the updated drafts soon.
Meanwhile please send agenda requests. We know we will have two slots for each
of the WG documents. Michael won&#8217;t be making any updates to the LEDBAT
survey document for Hiroshima. <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText>Other than the above I&#8217;d like to propose a few
topics that I think will help the WG immensely. I am cross-posting the invite
to ICCRG folks as well. As we are working on finalizing a lower than
best-effort transport that is based on delay measurement there have been
questions around experimental data/discussion around proving/disproving late
comer&#8217;s advantage, whether flows can be starved, fairness in the presence
of multiple flows etc. As with all congestion control laws the one being
discussed has a choice of parameter values to choose from. A lot of the work
here is building on earlier work on delay and loss based algorithms so it would
be good to hear views form others who have done this type of work in the past. I
know there are folks that have implementation experience with delay and loss
based algorithms. May be you have some interesting data to share that is
relevant to the problem being discussed. You can look at the current proposal
at <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shulanov-ledbat-congestion"
target="_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shulanov-ledbat-congestion</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>If you are interested, please send us details including
title/topic, presenter name and requested time. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Murari </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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