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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I suspect the diff is against <a
href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shalunov-ledbat-congestion-00">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shalunov-ledbat-congestion-00</a>,
since the previous draft prior to approval as an official WG item.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
ledbat-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ledbat-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Murari
Sridharan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ledbat@ietf.org; iccrg@cs.ucl.ac.uk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ledbat] Ledbat presentation slots for Hiroshima<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Here is the agenda. <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>LEDBAT WG Meeting, IETF 76<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Friday, November 13<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Cattleya East<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>9:00 AM Preliminaries (10 mts)<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>9:10-9:40 <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Low
Extra Delay Background&nbsp; Transport (LEDBAT), S. Shalunov (30 minutes)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><a
href="http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ledbat-congestion-00.txt">http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ledbat-congestion-00.txt</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Looks
like there were some minor edits made but the version is still 00? Is this
correct Stas?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><a
href="http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?difftype=--hwdiff&amp;url2=draft-ietf-ledbat-congestion-00.txt">http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?difftype=--hwdiff&amp;url2=draft-ietf-ledbat-congestion-00.txt</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>9:40-10:10
LEDBAT Practices and Recommendations for Managing Multiple Concurrent TCP
Connections, R. Penno (30 minutes)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><a
href="http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-penno-ledbat-app-practices-recommendations-01.txt">http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-penno-ledbat-app-practices-recommendations-01.txt</a><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>10:10
&#8211; 10:30 Next Steps and Wrap-up (20 minutes)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Murari
</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
ledbat-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ledbat-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Murari
Sridharan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ledbat@ietf.org; iccrg@cs.ucl.ac.uk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ledbat] Ledbat presentation slots for Hiroshima<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText>We&#8217;ll hopefully get the updated drafts soon. Meanwhile
please send agenda requests. We know we will have two slots for each of the WG
documents. Michael won&#8217;t be making any updates to the LEDBAT survey document
for Hiroshima. <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText>Other than the above I&#8217;d like to propose a few topics
that I think will help the WG immensely. I am cross-posting the invite to ICCRG
folks as well. As we are working on finalizing a lower than best-effort
transport that is based on delay measurement there have been questions around
experimental data/discussion around proving/disproving late comer&#8217;s advantage,
whether flows can be starved, fairness in the presence of multiple flows etc.
As with all congestion control laws the one being discussed has a choice of
parameter values to choose from. A lot of the work here is building on earlier
work on delay and loss based algorithms so it would be good to hear views form
others who have done this type of work in the past. I know there are folks that
have implementation experience with delay and loss based algorithms. May be you
have some interesting data to share that is relevant to the problem being
discussed. You can look at the current proposal at <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shulanov-ledbat-congestion"
target="_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shulanov-ledbat-congestion</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>If you are interested, please send us details including
title/topic, presenter name and requested time. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Murari </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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