<div>Murari, Lachlan, all,</div><div><br></div>ICCRG seems like a great place to discuss generation and use of richer ECN signaling. Related work can exist in both ICCRG and in TCPM, and work can (and occasionally does) move from ICCRG to the IETF as it becomes more protocol engineering work. <div>
<br></div><div>I support bringing this topic to ICCRG.<br><br>FWIW,<br>- jana<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Murari Sridharan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:muraris@microsoft.com" target="_blank">muraris@microsoft.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Great point, as I said this could go either way. However I am saying there is work regarding signaling that should be taken up at TCPM and not just bucketized into being research.<br>
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</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">Greetings Murari / all,<br>
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I think that the signalling itself may be suitable for TCPM, but there is plenty of research scope for the many different uses it can be put to. If we stick to the original view of "ECN must be treated as loss"<br>
then there isn't much to do, but looking at ways to combine ECN marks from multiple packets to signal richer information is research, and so is deciding what to do with that richer information.<br>
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Lachlan<br>
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On 11 October 2012 11:07, Murari Sridharan <<a href="mailto:muraris@microsoft.com">muraris@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Chair hat off, I think this topic is less research and more useful pursued in TCPM.<br>
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> Chair hat on: sounds interesting we should talk about it :-)<br>
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> On Behalf Of Michael Welzl<br>
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> I think it would be quite fitting, especially because the applications of such a scheme seem to be more research'y right now...<br>
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> On Oct 5, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Yuchung Cheng wrote:<br>
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>> Should we discuss better ECN sigaling and feedback here too?<br>
>> I thought that's a hot topic.<br>
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