[Sumover-tech] Usability issues with "vic"
Piers O'Hanlon
p.ohanlon at cs.ucl.ac.uk
Wed Mar 5 10:12:28 GMT 2008
Hi Jason,
That sounds like a good idea. We have our Trac system which is
designed just for such things - If you think you'll continue to want
to add new items or change existing ones I can give you login (let me
know a suggested username/pass) and you can add a new 'enhancement'
ticket so it can be tracked. Otherwise if you think these are just one
off requests then I can just add them for you.
Thanks,
Piers
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:07 AM, Jason Bell <j.bell at cqu.edu.au> wrote:
> G'day Piers and all
>
> As mentioned in my emails below, there are a couple of things have could
> be improved.
>
> To ensure that these suggestions are not lost and "potential" fixes
> completed, I am just wondering what the best process is to "register"
> formally/properly these issues and how I can received status reports on
> them, etc.
>
> Therefore, would it be best for me to submit some form of bug-report for
> each of the issues, or is this mailing list appropriate enough.
>
> I apologise in advance if this means more work for you, it is just the
> main purpose for me is to assist improving the usability issues with the
> AG software (which includes vic). Therefore, If I am able to assist by
> highlighting areas that I feel can be improved, I hope this is of some
> assistance!
>
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Jason.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> From: Jason Bell [mailto:j.bell at cqu.edu.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2008 05:43 PM
> To: Piers O'Hanlon
> Cc: sumover-tech
> Subject: RE: [Sumover-tech] Usability issues with "vic"
>
> G'day Piers
>
> Thanks for your email and providing feedback.
>
> I am happy to hear that the project is continuing, though under a
> different project name.
>
> Another comment in which I hope you don't mind me posting, is an option
> that allowed "frequent" resorting of video thumbnails. Not only could
> you have a 'refresh' button, but an option that keeps everything sorted.
> I personally think this would be quite useful. If this were to be a
> configurable option, we could be set it through the node services on the
> access grid.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't know if I could manage the time to provide the
> patches, but would be grateful if someone could enable these features
> and obviously I would be happy to assist with testing.
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Jason.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Piers O'Hanlon [mailto:p.ohanlon at cs.ucl.ac.uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2008 2:09 AM
> To: Jason Bell
> Cc: sumover-tech
> Subject: Re: [Sumover-tech] Usability issues with "vic"
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> Thanks for your suggestions. Just to let you know the SUMOVER project
> finished last year but we have new project (called AVATS) with
> Manchester University. The new project is focussed more on stability
> then new features etc but minor changes are fine as long as stability
> and usability are enhanced.
> http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/research/avats/
>
> I think the additional menu items are quite doable as is updating the
> help info - I think you're right there's not enough info made
> available on some of the 'hidden' features.
>
> The ordering of the video thumbnails has been mentioned before - I
> think we could at least sort things out so they the existing
> thumbnails are reordered if other sites disappear. I'll look at adding
> a scrollbar. In the newer version of vic the local video is in a
> different shade of grey - it may be a good idea to keep the sending
> video window separate.
>
> Thanks for the input - feel free to make any suggestions (and patches).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Piers.
>
> > To further my comments I wrote previously, I have tried a latest SVN
> > snapshot version of "vic" and I like the "right click for context
> menu" to
> > select a video size. I think this is great!
> >
> >
> >
> > I am wondering if it could be possible to expand upon this and
> implement a
> > "nested menu" option. Therefore, when you right click on the video
> stream,
> > you may have a couple of menu options such as (names not important,
> just the
> > concept):
> >
> >
> >
> > * Video Size
> >
> > o QFIC
> >
> > o CIF
> >
> > o SCIF
> >
> > o 1/16 NTCS
> >
> > o 1/4 NTCS
> >
> > o NTCS
> >
> > o 1/16 PAL
> >
> > o 1/4 PAL
> >
> > o PAL
> >
> > * Other options
> >
> > o Scroll Video Streams (shortcut being "<")
> >
> > o Panorama View (shortcut being "x")
> >
> >
> >
> > Another option I really liked on a older version of open mash, was the
> way
> > you could set the video stream to cycle through video streams every 5
> or so
> > seconds... This is a great feature if you have limited screen
> real-estate and
> > simply wanted to keep an eye on things. If this is still possible, it
> would
> > be nice to have this as a menu option as well.
> >
> >
> >
> > Additionally, it would be nice if you could implement a "right click
> for
> > context menu" option on the video stream thumbnail screen. This would
> allow
> > users to select tile arrangement and other nice things.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyway, as you can see from my suggestions, most of the things that I
> have
> > suggested, are already possible to do it "vic". It is simply making
> the
> > interface more user-friendly and simpler to use.
> >
> >
> >
> > Does this at all sound feasible and possible???
> >
> >
> >
> > I hope again that this is the appropriate forum to discuss these
> ideas.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your time,
> >
> > Jason.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Douglas Kosovic [mailto:douglask at itee.uq.edu.au]
> > Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 09:28 PM
> > To: sumover-tech
> > Subject: Re: [Sumover-tech] Usability issues with "vic"
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> >
> >
> > > 1. The issue for me here is that I wouldn't like to clutter up
> the
> >
> > > video streams with addition menu options, like an old version of the
> >
> > > openmash version of vic, but it would be useful if a user could
> somehow
> >
> > > have a menu option (or whatever) that allows them to resize, or
> other
> >
> > > vic "shortcut" key options... (How many people know that by hitting
> the
> >
> > > "<" button on a video stream, they can scroll through the video
> streams)
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps the Help dialog box should be updated with info on the
> keyboard
> >
> > shortcuts, etc. The current VIC SVN version now has a right mouse
> button
> >
> > context menu (which is the same video size menu as found in the video
> >
> > window menu bar from older UCL VICs).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Doug
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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