[Iccrg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-irtf-iccrg-welzl-congestion-control-open-research-01.tx t

[Bob Briscoe]

Michael,

At 15:02 27/05/2008, Michael Scharf wrote:
>On Fri, 23 May 2008 at 02:46:40, Bob Briscoe wrote:
> >>  3.1.1 Performance and robustness
> >>  ...
> >>     - What is the minimum support that is needed from routers in order
> >>      to achieve significantly better performance than with end-to-end
> >>      mechanisms?
> >>
> >> BC: Can you add the obvious: without damaging the end-to-end principle.
> >
> > I'd certainly agree to that. Co-authors?
[snip]
>For instance, [1] concludes that "congestion control is one
>function that is not well suited to end-to-end implementation."  I
>guess that not everyone will agree to this statement.

I for one disagree...


>Deepening this discussion is propably beyond the scope of this
>draft. But I could imagine to add one or two references that reflect
>the discussions concerning the implication on the e2e principle.
>
>Can anyone recommend relevant references other than [1]?

Richard J. Gibbens and Frank P. Kelly, "Resource pricing and the 
evolution of congestion control" Automatica 35 (12) pp. 1969--1985 
(December, 1999).

And... I guess our work to police e2e congestion control building on 
Kelly but with engineering rather than pricing. But I guess 
self-citations aren't allowed ;)


Bob


>Michael
>
>
>[1] T. Moors: "A critical review of "End-to-end arguments in system
>design"", Proc. International Conference on Communications (ICC), 2002

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